{"id":100,"date":"2009-12-18T17:53:21","date_gmt":"2009-12-18T17:53:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/?p=100"},"modified":"2010-06-16T10:51:07","modified_gmt":"2010-06-16T10:51:07","slug":"iliri-rimsko-carstvo-i-najezda-slovena-na-nase-prostore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/iliri-rimsko-carstvo-i-najezda-slovena-na-nase-prostore\/","title":{"rendered":"Stari vijek na\u0161eg prostora"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Windows\/Temp\/moz-screenshot.png\" alt=\"\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/ilriya.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4737\" title=\"ilriya\" src=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/ilriya.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"616\" height=\"377\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>&#8220;Vi ste Bo\u0161njaci, ali ste zanemarili svoju predtursku historiju.<br \/>\nAko vi ne\u0107ete tu historiju kao svoju,<br \/>\nonda \u0107e Srbi i Hrvati re\u0107i da je njihova&#8221;<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; Pavlo Ostovi\u0107, \u010dlan Jugoslovenskog odbora iz Prvog svjetskog rata.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Iliri i Rimljani<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_314\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-314\" style=\"width: 272px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/tvrdjava_arsa1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-314\" title=\"tvrdjava_arsa\" src=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/tvrdjava_arsa1-272x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"272\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-314\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tvr\u0111ava Arsa<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Iliri su najstrariji narod, kome se zna ime, da je \u017eivio na na\u0161em prostoru. Prostirali su se na podru\u010diju dana\u0161nje Bosne i Hercegovine,\u00a0 Sand\u017eaka, Crne Gore, isto\u010dne Srbije, Albanije, Kosova i zapadne Makedonije. Jedan su od naroda koji su u Evropu prodrli iz evroazijskih stepa, u III i po\u010detkom II milenijuma stare ere, zajedno sa Germanima i Keltima (Galima). Svi su oni bili nosioci jedne nove kulture koja se zasnivala na metalima (bronza, bakar\u2026). Zahvaljuju\u0107i oru\u017eju od metala i lahke pokretljivosti, posvuda su uni\u0161tavali mirne neolitske starosjedioce. Bili su vrsni ratnici i tvorci jedne velike kraljevine pod imenom ILIRYA. Ta velika dr\u017eava je svoj uspon do\u017eivjela od 10. do 1. vijeka stare ere. \u0160to se ti\u010de na\u0161e teritorije Sand\u017eaka, navodi se da su je naseljavali gu\u0161\u0107e nego u drugim mjestima, i to dva ilirska plemena: Autorijati (slivove rijeka Lim, Tara, Ra\u0161ka i Ibar) i Dardanci (Pe\u0161ter). Dokazi za te tvrdnje su brojni toponimi (nazivi rijeka, planina \u2026) kao \u0161to su Tara, Ibar, Pe\u0161ter, Zeta, Ra\u0161ka \u2026 Prema vizantijskom histori\u010daru Prokopiju, iz 6. vijeka, jedno od poznatih naselja na tom podru\u010diju bila je tvr\u0111ava Arsa, pa je slovenizacijom postalo Rasa-Ras, od koje je nastao naziv Rasia-Ra\u0161ka. Tragovi kulture tog velikog naroda su u na\u0161em kraju prona\u0111eni na mjestu Vezirovo brdo kod Gusinja, i to zidni reljefi koji poti\u010du iz 7. vijeka stare ere i ostaci tvr\u0111ave Arse u mjestu Pazari\u0161te kod Novog Pazara. \u0160irom Sand\u017eaka su rasprostranjeni ostaci starih ilirskih grobalja koji su u na\u0161em narodu poznati kao &#8220;gr\u010dka groblja&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Zbog toga \u0161to su bili \u017eestoki borci, poku\u0161ajem Rima da ovlada ovom dr\u017eavom, ulaze u 220-ogodi\u0161nji rat. Rim uspijeva da ih pokori i ovlada nad njima za narednih 500 god. Kroz to vrijeme Iliri su dijelili sudbinu ostalih pokorenih naroda od Rimskog carstva, koje se prostiralo od Maroka do Irana i od Engleske do Sudana. Va\u017eno je napomenuti da je granica izme\u0111u Isro\u010dnog i Zapadnog Rimskog carstva prolazila teritorijom dana\u0161njeg Sand\u017eaka, \u0161to govori o ulozi ove teritorije na Balkanu. U blizini Pljevlja prona\u0111en je jedan arheolo\u0161ki nalaz u obliku kamenog spisa, iz rimskog perioda, ispisan latinicom.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Doseljavanje <\/strong><strong>Slovena<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_305\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-305\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/stari_sloveni.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-305  \" title=\"stari_sloveni\" src=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/stari_sloveni-300x186.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"186\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-305\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Slika starih Slovena<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Rije\u010d <em>&#8216;Sl<\/em><em>oven&#8217; <\/em>poti\u010de od latinske rije\u010di<em> &#8216;sclav&#8217;, <\/em>\u0161to zna\u010di rob. Pa tako postoji mi\u0161ljenje da su Rimljani, da bi uspostavili kontrolu nad Ilirima, doveli sa Karpata Slovene kao robove i naseljavali ih po ilirskim zemljama. Tu su se naseljavali i mije\u0161ali sa Ilirima i tako se Iliri vremenom asimiliraju i primaju njihov jezik. Naseljavanje Slovena je dobrim dijelom zaobi\u0161lo Bosnu i Sand\u017eak, i to upravo zbog brdsko-planinske konfiguracije, ali ipak, vremenom su slovenske skupine uspjele da se probiju dublje i trajno se tamo nasele. Zbog toga \u0161to su te Ilire sa svih strana okru\u017eivali Sloveni u velikom broju, nisu uspjeli zadr\u017eati svoju etni\u010dku samostalnost. Nasljednici Slovena na na\u0161im prostorima su Srbi, Crnogorci i Hrvati, ali Srbi to posebno nagla\u0161avaju, a nasljednici Rimskog carstva bivaju Bizantinci.<\/p>\n<p>Srbi su narod koji se prvi put spominje u 7. vijeku. Rije\u010d &#8216;Srbin&#8217; po, ve\u0107ini mi\u0161ljenja histori\u010dara, poti\u010de od gr\u010dke rije\u010di &#8216;<em>servus&#8217;<\/em>, \u0161to zna\u010di, tako\u0111er, rob. Dokazi su sljede\u0107i:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1)<\/strong> Car Konstantin Porfirogenet je u svom djelu \u201eDe Administrando Imperio\u201d , oko 950. god., napisao sljede\u0107e o porijeklu njihovog naziva:<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201c&#8230;Srbi na jeziku Bizantinaca je rije\u010d koja ozna\u010dava &#8216;robove&#8217;, a na tom jeziku obi\u010dno se rije\u010dju &#8216;serbula&#8217; ozna\u010dava obu\u0107u robova, a rije\u010d &#8216;serboulianous&#8217; ozna\u010dava one koji nose jeftinu, siroma\u0161ku obu\u0107u. Srbi su to ime dobili jer su postali robovi imperatora Bizantinaca&#8230;\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>2) <\/strong>Isto tako arhiepiskom Giljeljmo Tirski (1139.-1186.) u njegovim dokumentima pod nazivom \u201cMonumenta Montenegrina\u201d je zapisao:<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201c&#8230;a sav ovaj narod vodi porijeklo od onih koji su u tim krajevima, upu\u0107eni i dovedeni u progonstvo, bili kaznjeni da sijeku mermer i kopaju rude, pa zato im ime dolazi od &#8216;ropstva&#8217; \u2013 &#8216;servitutis&#8217;..\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kako Konstantin Porforogenet opisuje, Srbi su bili robovi u Bizantisjkom carstvu. Tra\u017eili su od cara da ih pusti da se vrate u svoju zemlju na daleki sjever. Pa je tako on u nastavku zapisao:<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cPa, poslije nekog vremena, ti su isti Srbi odlu\u010dili po\u0107i u svoje vlastite ku\u0107e (vratiti se na Karpate), a imperator ih je pustio. Ali, kad su pre\u0161li rijeku Dunav (Danoubin) oni su promijenili svoje mi\u0161ljenje pa su poslali jednu molbu imperatoru Herakliju, putem vojnog zapovjednika koji je tada bio u Belegradonu, da bi on njima dao drugu zemlju za naseliti se. A budu\u0107i da ono \u0161to je sada Srbija i Paganija i takozvana zemlja Zahloumon i Terbounia i zemlja Kanalita, bilo pod upravom imperatora Bizantinaca, i budu\u0107i da su te zemlje bile opusto\u0161ene od Avara, stoga je imperator naselio te iste Srbe u nazna\u010dene zemlje i oni su postali podlo\u017enici imperatoru Bizantinaca, a imperator je doveo sve\u0107enike iz Rima i njih krstio, i nau\u010dio ih da pravilno obavljaju pobo\u017enosti, i pou\u010dio ih u kr\u0161\u0107anskom nauku. \u201c<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mo\u017eda su ovo i odgovor za\u0161to je Bizantiji, odgovaralo slovensko zaposijedanje Balkana i 668. god. je regrutovano oko 30,000 Slovena u ratu protiv muslimanskog halife.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Stara Bosna<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_312\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-312\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/rimsko_doba.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-312\" title=\"rimsko_doba\" src=\"https:\/\/sandzakpress.net\/arhiva\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/rimsko_doba-300x243.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"243\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-312\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bosna u Rimskom carstvu<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Bosna, njen narod i vjera se oformljuju kad i ostali balkanski narodi, u 7. vijeku, ali se jo\u0161 u sklopu Rimskog carstva javlja poseban termin za narod koji je \u017eivio u njenom sredi\u0161tu \u2013 <em>&#8216;Poseni<\/em> &#8216;(iskrivljeno od Boseni), odnosno kasnije Bo\u0161njani i danas Bo\u0161njaci, teritorija dana\u0161nje Bosne se nazivala <em>&#8216;Bassania<\/em>&#8216;. Taj su naziv vjerovatno naslijedili od Ilira. Prvi vladari Bosne se ne mogu sa sigurno\u0161\u0107u navesti, jer ta administrativna teritorija postoji milenijumima.\u00a0 U &#8216;Ljetopisu Popa Dukljanina&#8217; se spominje kao zna\u010dajan vladar Silmir (po\u010detak 9. vijeka), dok za utjemeljiva\u010da nezavisne Bosne pop navodi Svetolik Stjepana (917.-934.). Ra\u0161ku (tada\u0161nju Srbiju) je utemeljio \u017eupan \u010caslav (927-950.). On je pobjegav\u0161i iz bugarskog ropstva, uz pomo\u0107 Bizantije, odvoio Ra\u0161ku od Bugarske i pro\u0161irio na Duklju i ve\u0107i dio Bosne ka primoriju. Taj dio Bosne je ostao u sastavu Ra\u0161ke 10 god. i Bosna ubrzo postaje u cjelosti nezavisna. Naravno, slabljenjem i povla\u010denjem Bizantije. To ne daje nikakva prava Srbima nad Bosnom, jer je tada Srbi nisu naselili. U ud\u017ebenicima, u na\u0161im \u0161kolama, se u\u010di da su \u201dSrbi i ovi drugi u Srbiji, Crnoj Gori i Bosni jedno te isto\u201d. Jedina je razlika bila \u0161to su \u201covi drugi\u201d bili prisiljeni prihvatiti \u201dmuhamedansku veru\u201d da bi pre\u017eivjeli \u201dzulum\u2019, ali,\u00a0 historija svjedo\u010di da su oni jo\u0161 u 10. vijeku ratovali, jer nisu posjedovali isti identitet, kulturu i vjeru, \u010dak im je i dr\u017eavno ure\u0111enje bilo jako razli\u010dito.<\/p>\n<p>\u0160to se ti\u010de vjere, poznato nam je da se nastupom nove ere kr\u0161\u0107anstvo svijetom \u0161irilo velikom brzinom. Kako je vrijeme odmicalo od poslanstva Isa, a.s. (Isusa Hrista) javljalo se sve vi\u0161e kr\u0161\u0107anskih u\u010denja. Iliri su sa\u010duvali jedno od, mnogobrojnih, kr\u0161\u0107anskih u\u010denja, jer do Bosne, mo\u017eda opet zbog njenog geografkog polo\u017eaja, nije doprla odluka sa Nikejskog koncila, koji je odr\u017ean 325. god. i na kojem je nare\u0111eno da se sva evan\u0111elja, osim kanonska \u010detiri, spale i takva u\u010denja iskorijene. Iliri su svoju vjeru nazivali apostolskom, tj. njegovali su tradiciju da vode porijeklo od crkvenih u\u010denja kakvo je bilo u vrijeme apostola (ar. havarijje \u2013 drugovi Isa, a. s.\/Isusa Hrista), za razliku od pravoslavne i katoli\u010dke crkve koje su se od toga bile davno udaljile; a u Ra\u0161koj je dominanciju uspijela uspostaviti bizantijska pravoslavna crkva. U srednjem vijeku u Bosni, vjera, nacija i kultura dolaze do izra\u017eaja.<\/p>\n<p>Zanimljivo je jo\u0161 ista\u0107i da su brojna istra\u017eivanja dokazala da se DNK ve\u0107ine Bo\u0161njaka razlikuje od njihovih susjeda Srba i Hrvata. Prema svjetskoj organizaciji IGENEA, koja je napravila DNK analize za sve dr\u017eave ovako izgleda porijeklo naroda sa ovih prostora:<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Drevni narodi u Bosni i Hrcegovoni<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\nIliri 40 %<br \/>\nTeutonci 20 %<br \/>\nKelti 15 %<br \/>\nSloveni 15 %<br \/>\nHuni 6 %<br \/>\nTra\u010dani 4 %<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Drevni narodi u Srbiji i Crnoj Gori<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\nSloveni 30 %<br \/>\nIliri 21 %<br \/>\nTeutonci 18 %<br \/>\nKelti 14 %<br \/>\nFeni\u010dani 9 %<br \/>\nHelenski Narodi 6 %<br \/>\nVikinzi 2 %<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Drevni narodi u Hrvatskoj<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/span>Iliri 34 %<br \/>\nSloveni 20 %<br \/>\nKelti 18 %<br \/>\nTeutonci 12 %<br \/>\nFeni\u010dani 8 %<br \/>\nHelenski narodi 8 %<\/p>\n<p>Sve su ovo \u010dinjenice koje ukazuju da su Iliri Bo\u0161njacima dali kulturno, etni\u010dko i politi\u010dko obilje\u017eije. Ako nije tako, onda gdje su Iliri koji su 4000 god. \u017eivjeli na tolikom prostoru pod jednim velikim kraljevstvom!?<\/p>\n<p>Autor: <strong>Usame Zukorli\u0107<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Literatura: <em> <\/em><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><em>\/Sand\u017eak, porobljena zemlja\/<\/em>,\u00a0 Harun Crnovr\u0161anin, Nuro Sadikovi\u0107<\/li>\n<li><em>\/Kako se kalio Sand\u017eak\/<\/em>,\u00a0 Harun Crnovr\u0161anin, Nuro Sadikovi\u0107<strong> <\/strong><\/li>\n<li>\/Porijeklo naziva Srbin, kako su i po kome su ponijeli ime, dokumenta, izvori\/, Forum.hr<\/li>\n<li>Igenea.com<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Vi ste Bo\u0161njaci, ali ste zanemarili svoju predtursku historiju. 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